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http://web.archive.org/web/20091203143058/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-original-theory-of-evolution-were-it-not-for-the-farmer-who-came-up-with-it-60-years-before-darwin-583519.html

James Hutton news article


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/browse_frm/thread/aefd3884630a72bb#

James Hutton on the process of natural selection: Edit

This wisdom of nature, in the seminal variation of organised bodies, is now the object of our contemplation, with a view to see that the acknowledged variation, however small a thing in general it may appear, is truly calculated for the preservation of things, in all that perfection with which they had been, in the bounty of nature, first designed. Now, this will be evident, when we consider, that if an organised body is not in the situation and circumstances best adapted to its sustenance and propagation, then, in conceiving an indefinite variety among the individuals of that species, we must be assured, that ... those which depart most from the best adapted constitution, will be most liable to perish, while ... those organised bodies, which most approach to the best constitution for the present circumstances, will be best adapted to continue, in preserving themselves and multiplying the individuals of their race.

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This variation of bodies, is now the object of our contemplation, with a view to see that the variation is for the preservation of things. we consider, that if a body is not in the situation and circumstances best adapted to its sustenance and propagation, then, in conceiving an indefinite variety among the individuals of that species, we must be assured, that ... those which depart most from the best adapted constitution, will be most liable to perish, while ... those organised bodies, which most approach to the best constitution for the present circumstances, will be best adapted to continue, in preserving themselves and multiplying the individuals of their race.

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This variation of bodies is for the preservation of things. If a body is not in the circumstances best adapted to its propagation, then, in conceiving an indefinite variety among the individuals of that species, we must be assured, that ... those which depart most from the best adapted constitution, will be most liable to perish, while ... those organised bodies, which most approach to the best constitution for the present circumstances, will be best adapted to continue, in preserving themselves and multiplying the individuals of their race.

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This variation of bodies is for the preservation of things. If a body is not best adapted to its propagation, then, in conceiving an indefinite variety among the individuals of that species, we must be assured, that ... those which depart most from the best adapted constitution, will be most liable to perish, while ... those bodies, which approach to the best constitution for the circumstances, will be best adapted in preserving themselves and leaving offspring.

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This variation of bodies is for the preservation of things. Those which depart from the best adapted constitution, will be most liable to perish, while those which approach to the best constitution for the circumstances, will be best adapted in preserving themselves and leaving offspring.

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Those which depart from the best adapted constitution, will perish, while those which approach to the best constitution for the circumstances, will be best adapted.

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Those which depart from the best adapted constitution, will not be adapted but perish, while those which approach to the best constitution for the circumstances, will be best adapted.

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Those not adapted will perish, while those adapted for the circumstances, will be the best adapted.

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Those not adapted will not be adapted, while those adapted will be adapted.


Extract from Darwin's 'On the Origin of Species': Edit

It may be said that natural selection is daily and hourly scrutinising, throughout the world, every variation, even the slightest; rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good; silently and insensibly working, whenever and wherever opportunity offers, at the improvement of each organic being in relation to its organic and inorganic conditions of life. We see nothing of these slow changes in progress, until the hand of time has marked the long lapses of ages, and then so imperfect is our view into long past geological ages, that we only see that the forms of life are now different from what they formerly were.

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Natural selection is scrutinising every variation rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good. We see nothing of these slow changes in progress, until the hand of time has marked the long lapses of ages, and then so imperfect is our view into long past geological ages, that we only see that the forms of life are now different from what they formerly were.

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Natural selection is scrutinising every variation rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good. We only see that the forms of life are now different from what they formerly were.

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Natural selection is scrutinising variations rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good.

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Natural selection is a process that rejects that which is bad, preserving that which is good.


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Extract from Darwin's 'On the Origin of Species':

It may be said that natural selection is daily and hourly scrutinising, throughout the world, every variation, even the slightest; rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good; silently and insensibly working, whenever and wherever opportunity offers, at the improvement of each organic being in relation to its organic and inorganic conditions of life. We see nothing of these slow changes in progress, until the hand of time has marked the long lapses of ages, and then so imperfect is our view into long past geological ages, that we only see that the forms of life are now different from what they formerly were.

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Natural selection is scrutinising every variation rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good. We see nothing of these slow changes in progress, until the hand of time has marked the long lapses of ages, and then so imperfect is our view into long past geological ages, that we only see that the forms of life are now different from what they formerly were.

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Natural selection is scrutinising every variation rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good. We only see that the forms of life are now different from what they formerly were.

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Natural selection is scrutinising variations rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good.

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Natural selection is a process that rejects that which is bad, preserving that which is good.

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Strip out grammatical gargoyle "natural selection" it is superfluous to the underlying tautology.

There is some process out there that rejects that which is bad, preserving that which is good.


This statement is formulated in such a way that its truth *cannot be disputed* to use Darwin's exact term. The words "preserving" and "good" alludes to the same fact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(rhetoric) tells us that formulating a concept in such a manner that it cannot be disputed is a flawed logically and inferences drawn from such must be rejected as fallacious . }}}




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JohnWilkins

http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&as_q=natural+selection&as_epq=william+wells&as_oq=&as_eq=brown&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

{{{ have three times now posted equations that are pretty well unambiguous that define the core ideas of modern evolutionary biology. You have ignored these. I had hoped you merely hadn't seen them, but it seems you are going to repeat this claim no matter what you are told, and so I call you an out and out liar.

You do not know what the theory of natural selection is, that much is true. And you do not want to know.

> For example from Dr. Wilkins: > http://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2006/06/on_microbial_species... > "...The problem is this: usually we define a species as a group of > related organisms that share genes (or a gene pool, which amounts to > the same thing). Sometimes we include also ecological considerations > (either in the form of natural selection, or in terms of sharing > a niche)."

> What does he mean by Natural Selection context in relation to how > Darwin used the phrase in relation to Survival of the Fittest.

Way to take sentences out of context. I am discussing the general notion of a species. The idea that members of the same species share a habitat or niche predates Darwin by about 2500 years. The idea that natural selection is why predates Darwin by about 40 years (William Wells in 1813). And the problem here is the problem if defining species in asexual organisms such as microbes.

You play silly little verbal games and think you have found something out. Well we have - we found out that you are a fool. }}}

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